Great decision on my part for sure! I have purchase all the cheap stuff, Armscor, Magtech and Aguilla in 125 to 130 grain, you can find it for $15 ish a box. You cant beat going online to find a gun that youre looking for, and I can just about guarantee that youd find 38 Supers on GunBroker, to name just one place. Para is out of business, some miss them, while some do not. So if the ammunition is marked .38 Super +P, it is still a .38 Super. I bought a RIA 1911 in 38 Super a couple of years ago, always been fascinated by the round that gives you 357 Magnum ballistics in a 1911 platform. remarkably easy to handload. It filled the gap between the .45 Colt and the .38 Special. I rank the .38 Super along with the .45 ACP and the .44 Special as the 3 best calibers in America. I recently fitted a 38 Super barrel to my Rock Island 1911 in 9mm. Would even use as a carry gun. I shoot 100 rds a week so ammo is not a problem: plenty of choices at moderate prices. Great shooter with all loads but it really shines with the 124 gr. Fortunately, the Texas Ranger Museum and Hall of Fame in Waco, Texas would prove to be a valuable resource. Have been reading about early Texas history and am amazed by accounts of the states way of life in the early 1900s and the stories of men like Frank Hamer and LBJ who contributed so much good and bad. There were about five men directly in Hamers path wearing guns. The .38 Super used the same case and 130-grain FMJ bullet as the old .38 Automatic, but the brass held a heftier powder charge, zinging the bullet past the muzzle at 1,215 feet per second (fps) and 426 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, making the .38 Super, at the time of its introduction, the most powerful semi-automatic pistol cartridge in the world . The smaller-diameter .38 Super in its hottest loads offer greater penetration against light cover than the .45 ACP or 9mm cartridges. TriStar 85608 American Classic Government 1911 38 Super 5 in 8+1 Chrome Steel Frame/Slide Steel Barrel Wood Grips Right Hand with Mil-Spec . Your email address will not be published. The 9mm and .38 Super will be the same size frame, while the latter hits harder. With the similarity in parts and components for 1911 manufacturers and ammo makers Im surprised with as much ongoing controversy over the years between effectiveness of 9mm compared to 45 that there hasnt been a resurganceof 38 super that closes that gap, and in some minds exceeds with power, performance and capacity. A few ago I traded for a RIA 22TCM/9mm combo. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. The rifle was modified to accept a police only 15-round magazine. I actually have & use three of those,(I had to modify its lower lug from Wilson/ Nowlin to Para.Clark with TIG weld), custom fitted w/ Evolution Gun Works (EGW) bushings + Wilson.Combat #4 links, with awsome results. The Starburst Pattern G-10 grips really grabbed and held onto the hand, too. So, other calibers become cost competitive, and although I shoot a lot of 9mm for practice, .38 Super will always be my first choice. The .38 Super was particularly popular in Texas and over 200,000 were produced between 1929 and 1970. It was my Grandfathers gun and one of my favorite in the gun safe. Shot the 9mm and after cleaning put in the 38 super and havent changed it back. In his life he was wounded 17 times, left for dead four times and he killed between 53 and 70 people. It would eat the center out of targets with factory loads to 15 yards if one did his part. Hamer and the other peace officers used warning shots and tear gas to break the crowd up on more than one occasion while Hughes was locked in the district court vault for safety. No single model could . For the max in performance, Buffalo Bore offers high-velocity loads, including a 1,400 fps 115-grain JHP. In those days, Republicans had no possibility of winning a Senatorial race and the ruling ensured that Johnson was elected to the U.S. Senate from Texas. The penetration of the cartridge and reliability of the 1911 gave law officers a great advantage. Plus, you'll be the first to hear about our newest giveaways. Market data provided by Factset. NW Nevada. The factory letter confirms this is one of only 94 Texas Ranger Special Edition revolvers manufactured, lists the configuration, and notes that is chemically etched with "TEXAS RANGERS" in block letters down the back strap and inlaid with a flush silver "10" on the heel. I purchased a Colt Commander .38 Super in 1959 from Abercrombie & Fitch in San Francisco for $45.00. 1819 North Flintlock Pistol BELGIAN TEXAS RANGER .38 SPECIAL 1920S REVOLVER. Bonnie and Clyde Director Arthur Penn Dies at Age 88, Guns of outlaws Bonnie and Clyde to be auctioned. The gun, which has a 1926 patent date, remains in fine mechanical condition, with all original factory markings, and has moderate wear on its grips. The idea of the Texas Ranger Commemorative Colt Single Action Army revolver was conceived by Charles Schreiner III and Robert B. I sometimes wonder if it will gain some steam among conventional shooters like the 10mm has. I find very few people casually shoot the Super. In 1948, Stevenson led the Democratic primary with 39.7% to 33.7% against Lyndon B. Johnson. LBJ won the runoff by only 87 votes out of a total of 988,295. What these stories contribute to the readers world view needs no exaggeration. My father said that one reason she had the gun taped to the inside of her leg was that, in those days, no gentlemen officer would search a woman where she had it taped Sometime later, my father gave this gun to Buster Davis who had been a Texas Ranger and was, at the time, an FBI Agent.. Its worth considering that Dan Wesson makes several 1911s in .38 Super including the Guardian, a lightweight Commander type. After the Hollywood version of Bonnie and Clyde, Mrs. Frank Hamer and Frank Hamer, Jr., sued Warner Bros.-Seven Arts for the defamatory manner in which the movie depicted the famous lawman. over the 45ACP, and got one. Item Number: O1911C-SS38-DHM. I agree that the round can stand its own with the 9 and .45. 26 years and still my favorite pistol. Buy ammo while supplies last. Following the success of its initial collaboration with Vertx, Premier Body Armor announces its continued partnership. Texas Meet Arkansas *For safetys sake, use Ramped / FULLY supported bbls, (My 1.911s been cut for Para/Clark/Briley style ramps),like Bar.Sto, (My Bar.Stos being fire.lapped / crowned @ 11 degree muzzle, as well as most others, for best accuracy), Wilson.Nowlin, Para.Ord, Springfield, RIA, (EAA/ Tanfoglio, very strong, but different platform, also ramped bbls). In the 1920s, Hamer brought law and order to oil towns such as Mexia and Borger. Notify Me When Available. This Texas Ranger collector firearm features handsome 24-karat gold decorations, including the hammer, slide stop, safety lock, grip screws, barrel bushing and magazine catch. Love the gun and caliber. I found that using 9mm bullets expanded the available range of bullets without affecting accuracy. I have a Les Baer 38 Super and an STI DVC Ltd in 38 Super. Maybe then change the name from .38 Super to 9mm Super and lets see how much folks jump on the bandwagon for this new??? We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Bore is near excellent. The loading gate is loose when down. Over the years, the pistol was chambered for .45 ACP, .38 Super, 9 mm, .22 LR and various. Well, my grouping sucked. Lock up okay, but gun is likely non functional. All-carbon-steel construction, excluding the hand-fitted, stainless-steel match barrel, is standard on the Professional, and a liberal coating of Armor-Tuff finish is applied to frame and slide, in matching or contrasting colors. Colt built military versions of the pistol, along with a civilian model and various target models. After I retired from a near 30 year career in emergency services (firefighter/paramedic) I got a job in a gun store. Stephen F. Austin probably never anticipated the historical impact of his organizing a small civilian group to provide protection for immigrants into Tejas. Ive made hits with the Colt at 300 yards using Remington factory 130 grain FMJ. Complementing the overall design are the handsome rosewood grips checkered in the classic "double diamond" pattern on this Colt .45 Pistol. When asked why he carried Colt's .45 Government Model, he replied in typical Ranger fashion 'Because they don't make a Colt .46!' Texas . Talk about a tack driver, fun to shoot gun. Hamer used a customized .35 Remington Model 8 semiautomatic rifle with a special-order 15-round magazine. I bought a gun to fit my mistake,and dont regret it ,shoots dead accurate and hardly any recoil. Trace, in the Texas Ranger tradition, had a few of his own ideas to personalize the pistol, opting for a stainless steel slide, coated with black Armor Tuff. Today, Texas DPS issues Sig Sauer pistols in .357 Sig, undeniably robust, and potent, equipment. However, as an elite division, the Rangers are allowed some latitude in what they carry, and a large number choose the 1911. This Colt was Ranger Rohatsch's carry gun, and shows the wear!!! Like many lawmen of his era, Hamer adorned Old Lucky with carved pearl stocks,. The little guy hold an honorary place in my collection and I smile when I think back to when I purchased it for $100.00. I have a personal love for both rounds, and if you were to give me a modern double action handgun chambered in either one, Id probably buy one in a heartbeat. For more on Wilson Combat visit www.wilsoncombat.com. Back in 71, my Dad had a Colt super .38 he called Max. $1,836.00. As for the loads, the .38 ACP Super is a bit hotter than the 9mm at the top end. Joseph Pinkston in his excellent book, with Robert Cromie, Dillinger, A Short and Violent Life writes of the apprehension of Dillinger gang member Leslie Homer and of his advice given to Racine officers in November of 1933. I own 2 Colt 1911 ( gov model and custom shop) and they are amazing! Barrel is marked "Texas Ranger". Caliber: .38 Colt Special Overall condition as seen in photos. Your gun and its caliber are a tool to be used for sport shooting, hunting, and self-defense. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). My carry ammo has .357 Magnum power and 17 rounds in the magazine what is not to like? The police and the Bankers Associations refused to cooperate with Hamers investigation. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. 150 grain cast Elco design, AA7 and starline plus p brass makes for a ten . The frame is undercut at the front strap trigger-guard juncture, for a higher grip, and the front strap and flat mainspring housing are checkered in an effective 30-lpi pattern. The article covers the bases pretty well the 38 super is to a 9mm what the 357 is to the 38 splin short more bang. Description: Metal finish is 25%, has some patina. The .38 Super was introduced in the 1911 handgun in 1929 to arm peace officers with a hard-hitting handgun that offered good penetration against the new breed of mechanized thug. Ben in Arizona. They were later gunned down in 1934 on the outskirts of Bienville Parish, La. It made an excellent weapon for aircrew members, combat medics , radiomen and machine gunners. Shortly thereafter, many Rangers adopted the platform, first in .45 Auto, later in the .38 Super. Colt upped the power of the cartridge but used the same length cartridge case and chambered the .38 Super in the 1911 when it dropped production of the .38 ACP pistols. The Wilson Combat Texas Ranger Professional on Ranger Trace McDonalds belt works, as our range outing proved. This is an easier cartridge to master than the .45 and has two more rounds of magazine capacity. Also W.C. combat hammer. Advantage is you only have to find an FFL in your area to handle the transfer (also easy to do with Google), and once everything is said and done, youve escaped all the sales tax (unless you get it from someone in your state) and the higher price that a retailer is likely going to charge from the get-go, so you end up saving some money and can shop around without leaving your keyboard! DISCLAIMER: Some firearms can be sold on our sales floor before they are removed from web. Add to this, all his SAA pistols were short barreled. Ive been around Rangers, guns, and popping primers, and they all can shoot. We used to do some long-range shooting with handguns when I was in college. Historically, thats why it was created. Serial # 16205 Manufactured in 1891. The Para-Ordnance is an eye-catching pistol that has proven completely reliable, reasonably accurate, and a great deal of fun. The platform allows good control for those who practice. I used Glocks exclusively for carry went through models and calibers, ending up with the G30 and 45ACP. Additionally, its a remarkably easy cartridge to handload with good results. If so, Ill take it off your hands. Stevenson wanted to examine the tally sheets in the ballot box for Precinct 13; i.e.,fraudulent poll and tally lists for his opponent, then Congressman Lyndon Johnson. Some are accurate, but most require a Bar-Sto barrel for best results. I chose an inexpensive Swenson barrel from Brownells for this project. Advice: Buy ammo when ever you find a good price ( I need to start reloading again). Thats my take, now take your best shot to change my mind.. My super 38 Colt is an outstanding pistol. It was always in his pocket. To me, affinity for those two rounds would go hand in hand. When the posse assembled in a hurry in a Louisiana hinterwald small town, three of the men could not bring their own long arms, and were outfitted from Hamers personal rolling arsenal Gault got Hamers .25 Remington Model 8 semiautomatic rifle, Alcorn his .30-30 Winchester M1894 carbine, and Hinton his .30-06 Colt R80 Monitor machine rifle (a variant of the M1918 BAR which was the chosen armament of the outlaws). His lawyers argued about strategy for hours and Johnson finally turned to Abe Fortas who happened to be in nearby Dallas on business. Every man in the West wanted one. The pistol pictured was presented to Highway patrolman Glenn Elliott in 1956. B. Gillett, 1911 Colt Pistols, Capt. Combat mags. The Pre-War Colt .38 Super or "Super 38" were produced from 1929-1945. Kimber Custom Shop made only 260 Stainless Gold Match SE II in .38 Super in 2001. Colt .38 Super sn 44602 - shipped August 22,1947 to Peden Iron & Steel Company, Houston, Texas in a 50 gun shipment. Trace brought the pistol, and I furnished the ammo (except the load from Atlanta Arms, a company he routinely uses) and targets, and snapped the accompanying photos. Johnson went on to take the Senate seat that he stole from Stevenson and Stevenson retired to Junction, Texas. Two of these 22 round magazine equipped death machines were confiscated in a raid on John Dillingers apartment in St. Paul in April of 1933. But is . This is where I am supposed to say, and the result was the Wilson Combat Texas Ranger Model. Well, not exactly, as I found out when I requested one. In 1911, Hamer started working as a special investigator in Houston. [which also headspaces on the case mouth like the 38 soup, and probably will have the same issues for me, but I long for a new reloading challenge]. It was well known in Texas that Hamer had killed fifty-three men, been wounded seventeen times and left for dead more than once. It is possible to handload a 115-grain bullet to over 1,400 fps and a 124-grain JHP to a solid 1,350 fps. According to one of the posters, the reason that the Texas Rangers liked the Super 38 was that it would penetrate car bodies better than other calibers. heavier recoil spring. I more than once said that If my son was to need to carry a gun for his work I would want him to carry a 38 Super. at the time. His training, natural abilities and the Wilson were enough for a good start in the sport. A question that comes up around gun shops is, Who still uses the .38 Super, if anyone? I am one of the users of this fine cartridge, and while I appreciate the grand old .38 Super, or Super .38 as it is variously called, it is probably not a caliber I recommend for most shooters. I bought this pistol off a table at a small gun show in Custer, WA. Out of stock View Details . It is my go to cartridge and has been for years. 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He ordered the lower courts injunction stayed, and the ruling was upheld by the Supreme Court. He had already established Ranger contacts, courtesy of another firearm industry name, Chip McCormick, who has ties to the group because of antecedents who were Rangers. That small change means that modern .38 Supers are as accurate as 9mm or .45 ACP pistols. The Ranger Connection It balanced very well, and the sights were quick to recover. The third reason springs from a fortunate experiment done by a friend of mine in 1939 on a dare. "Bob" Berryman in 1969 and production began in 1970 with a total of 1,000 manufactured. Since then I now buy nothing but 38 super mags for both the 9mm/38 Supers, and have never had any feeding issues in the 9mm with either 115 or 124 gr. Always carried 1911 in .45 cal but when I tried the .38 super it was an instant change of heart! Ahhhh, the good old days. These Supers belonged to Nelson and were assembled from kits made by the Monarch Gun Company of Hollywood, California by underworld gunsmith H. S. Lebman of Texas. Stevenson and Hamer met the lawyers at the Alice Hotel and Hamer told them to take off their coats so that the well-armed gangs employed by the Duke of Duvall,George Parr, would know that they were unarmed. The March, 1992 issue of Guns and Ammo's " HANDGUNS FOR SPORT AND DEFENSE " magazine contains an interview with Frank Hamer Jr. who confirmed that his father's Colt was a .38 Super. With right loads, all of the above, print 1.25 2 @ 25 yds, (Ransom rest).Just my two cents. Paras quality sometimes left much to be desired, but the best Paras are excellent handguns. The 38 Super fills the bill here. Originally (and this was a biggie), it headspaced on the cases semi rim, which affected its accuracy compared to the 9mm and the 45ACP. The FBI Special Agents, the Border patrol, many Texas Rangers, St. Louis P.D.,and many leos, particularly in the South West of the U.S., favored the round due to it's superior penetration over the .45acp. Problem is, they are extremely hard to find now, especially the Colt Gold Cup Trophy. 100 Texas Ranger Trail Waco, TX 76706 (254) 750-8631 [email protected] 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Last guest admitted at 4:30 p.m. Interstate 35 at Southbound (from Dallas) Exit 335C or Northbound (from Austin) Exit 334B in Only change was an 18 lb. Guns International #: 101277151 Seller's Inventory #: 219948. Thank you for the review. I would have expected he would have carried a 4 inch Triplelock. The result? The .38 Super was designed to fire a 130-grain bullet at the 1,300 feetper- second (fps) threshold while the .38 ACP was in the 1,100 fps range. Read the article about the Amy McNeil Kidnapping. Please be respectful of others. Since Capt. Very inexpensively made and prone to breakage with no parts availability. I encourage anyone who has not shot a .38 Super to do so if given the chance, you will love the round afterwards. Some nations, notably Mexico, prohibit military calibers such as the 9mm and .45, but not the .38 Super. Ralph Rohatsch was a friend and associate of my father, who was the sheriff of San Patricio, County Texas . For most of my life, old-timers and shooters have called the cartridge the .38 Super and the handgun the Super .38.The proper name is the .38 ACP Super. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, Bonnie Parker was just 24 in 1934 when she and Clyde Barrow died in a hail of gunfire after being ambushed by authorities in Louisiana. One of my favorites! Hamer also took off his own coat and displayed the weapon that he was still authorized to carry in retirement as a Special Ranger employed by the Texas Oil Company.
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